Minutes of the OCF meeting Thu Mar 30 18:08:19 PST 1989
Attendence: Robert Cullham Partha Banerjee Marc Hertlein Gretchen Stude Shelly Louie Sean Rouse Antony Courtney Ron Woan Adam Glass Rob Robertson Cimarron Taylor Mark Hastings Jeff Wallace Mike Kiernan Kurt Pires Drew Dean
Those arriveing late: Adam Richter Peter Shipley Dave Sharnoff
Discussion:
Spring Elections
After some discussion, it was decided that elections would be
held at a General Meeting of the OCF on thursday, April 6th at
6pm in 608-7 evans. The meeting will follow the CSUA meeting
(which starts at 5:45). Ben Chen is thought to be in charge
of publicity for this event.
There was some debate regarding the board of directors
elections. Some of the problems discussed were:
* the purpose and function of the board of directors was
not well explained
* the "a majority is required to prevent someone from
being on the board" process stinks
* everyone should be allowed to speak for at least 1
minute and some sort of public acclaimation should be
needed.
* should the board have a fixed size?
These issues were deffered to the next general meeting.
Peter Shipley wanted it announced that he is running for
re-election as Site Manager although he will be unable to
attend the next meeting. He may have someone read a statement
in his behalf though.
Apollo Status
People asked "any news on the apollos". Drew says that there
is some new person (eric something) from apollo assigned to
handle our account. Nobody had contacted him so Robert Cullman
volunteered to contact him.
Partha predicted the machines would arrive in the middle of
april and there was discussion about concerning when the
facility would be officially opened. The general agreement was
that we should try to have a "fully operational" facility by
the first day of the fall semester.
Assigned Duties
There was some discussion regarding duties previously assigned
to people (generating documentation for new users type stuff).
It was felt that this is unimportant now and that someone
should be assigned to manage the project when the time comes..
Gretchen volunteered to do this.
Policies
Adam R. raised the issue of the OCF policies statement. After
much argument it was decided that paragraphs 1 and 2 needed
rewriting. A majority of people felt that explicitly
assigning punishments in the policy guidelines was a bad idea.
There was debate regarding definitions of "harrassment" and
"security breach". It was finally decided that Partha would
collect policy revision suggestions until saturday and that
we would revise the OCF policies at the next meeting.
Adam will create a ~adamj/ocf-adopted directory for stuff.
Next week's General Meeting
Partha agreed to put together an adgenda for next week's
meeting.
The meeting adjourned Thu Mar 30 19:27:01 PST 1989
Cim
The unofficial notes of the meeting:
When do we want the spring elections?
- const. says next week
- csua meeting happens just before it
(csua does not know when it's election is though)
- csua meeting will be at 5:45
- ocf general meeting will be at 6:00 next thurs
(in lieu of a board meeting)
- ben chen will handle publicity?
- next meeting: elections
elections are well understood but
we need to explain what the board is better next time
- adam likes the it was done the last time
(a majority was required to prevent you from becoming a member)
- psb thinks we need some sort of public acalimations
- rob thinks it stinks
- adam glass wants everyone to speak for at least 1 min to make
a policy statement
- drew: Q: are we electing according to policy or do we just need
to keep people off the board.
- psb: many of the no votes were arbitrary last time.
- slouie: are we going to keep unknown size of the board
- proposed: limit the board to half the size of the membership
- adam: n slots seems arbitrary
- slouie: the larger the board the less that gets done
- drew: unitl size is a problem, wy worry..
- what did we achieve 2 week ago?
(everyone agreed to do stuff which everyone flaked out on..)
- we made trivial decisions (mini-grant)
- junior system admisistrator?
- designed documentation system?
- psb discussed if people liked the way the meetings were going
- adam -- ocf board is almost = to ocf volunteer pool
- psb: let's defer this to next general meeting
(consider an amendment then)
- any new news on apollos?
- eric kruegerhaus?
nobody got a hold of him
- drew: eric was assigned the account
- we need to get a hold of him..
- robert c will do this.
(activity by ccs indicates they may come soon)
psb predicts middle of april.
- when we get machines, who gets informed? when?
- psb: we dont touch until installed
- robert: we should have people there when they are installed.
- psb: at some point we need to look at summer plans
- finals will be a problem.
ron: nice to have the machines up and running asap
- adam r: we want to say to hardyck: ob day one of semester
we will have a fully operatable system:
- plan for first day of fall semester for fully operable..
- we don't want people bitching before the system is fully
operable (define unsupported to these people)
other concerns about next week's meeting?
- psb will try to put together an agenda for next meeting.
shelly castigates ocf.
- Q: who is supposed to do what?
- adamj: last meeting: we agreed to:
1 page listing describing unix
some exitor info
some window system info
synopsis of ocf structure
info on help sessions
(etc)
- me: we need a manager for this when the time comes.
- gretchen would volunteer.
peter arrives very late Thu Mar 30 18:41:29 PST 1989
gretchen will just do something like unix for people
- adam glass asked to be withdrawn from volunteers list
dave muir arrives Very Very Late: Thu Mar 30 18:44:15 PST 1989
- adam r. passed around our policies and opend this can of worms again.
1) we can do anything we can justify. (if we make exceptions to
the policy that is)
2) punishment == attend bod meeting?
there might be a problem with (1) in harrassment
dave: spelling out punishment is a bad idea
adamr: punishment should fit the crime
psb: (1) should be rewritten
"pranks taken as seriously as the affected party" has problems
agreed: the sentence "In that case" has to go from (1)
(2) everything after some point (2nd or 3rd sentence) should
be deleted.
- Q: what is ocf staff?
security was argued and nothing was resolved
kj, jeff wallace, mark hastings, and mike k left
Thu Mar 30 19:05:19 PST 1989
- adam will create a ~adamj/ocf-adopted directory for stuff.
meeting degenerated rapidly.
- it was felt by over a 2 thirds majority that explicitly
stating punishments is a bad idea.
definition: security violation vs. prank
10 minutes of wasted time.
cim moved to adjourn the meeting and rob tried to second it.
- should we elaborate on definition of immediate?
drew: we agree on 3, 4, 5 are ok, lets discuss 1 & 2 by mail
someone: that would be pointless
- adam r suggested we meet back later tonight and did not get
much support.
- suggested policy revisions will be collected by psb until
saturday.
- peter raised the problem that he wants to run for reelection
but will be absent. it was suggested that he make a statment
that will be read at the meeting.