For those who were at the meeting, I apologize for my miscalculation:
we did have quorum. Please feel free to email corrections/questions to
bod@ocf.berkeley.edu, and please someone in group www post this minute
on the website. The minutes follow:
Minutes of the OCF Board of Directors Meeting 11/17/2005
Board Members (13):
brando
dima
elliot
ekashida(+)()
frank
geo
griffin
jkit
joshk()
novakyu
sle
tdhock(+)
yury(*)
(Note: (*) denotes the member who will be removed from BoD if not
present at this meeting. (+) ekashida == eugene in previous BoD minutes,
tdhock == toby in previous BoD minutes. The names used in these minutes
are their OCF login and should be used in preference to their first name.)
Board Members present (9): Quorum met
brando
dima
elliot
ekashida
frank
jkit
novakyu
sle
yury
Meeting Opens at 7:20 p.m. in Dwinelle 230:
Approved Discussion Topics:
* Printer (10 min allocated, with one suggesting 7 min, instead)
* Quota (5 min)
* "Sun Party" (5 min)
* Other (end-of-semester) Food/Party (5 min)
* Winter Break: Project Madness (30 sec)
* MCC
* Logging yury off
* Pizza
Announcements:
GM Message: None (or this note-taker missed it when it was announced)
SM Message: No SM message. elliot however laments, "We are basically
done and no one's showing up for BoD or project meetings any more.
We are getting close to finals."
Project Team Reports:
LDAP/Kerberos (report by yury):
Current State: It works on Linux and Solaris 10. We still need
tools (approve, sorry, etc.) and need to work on Windows.
Work Done: sluo worked on getting Kerberos working on Solaris 10.
yury wrote a working version of krb_migrate pam module, which
is necessary for transparent (from users' point of view)
migration (of password hash, essentially) from NIS+ to Kerberos.
Additional notes: yury: "We are ready to roll things out, but we
need to test it." We might need to set it up on one or two
login server (possibly sandstorm, which has been taken out of
commission to be Solaris 8 test client) and do a small-scale
migration and test for some time before moving completely over.
Security (report by frank):
Current State: frank says hmogri emailed him saying that: He's
working on a large document which analyzes OCF's security
situation and discusses what can be done to improve it.
Web: elliot mentions it briefly, but jkit reminds everyone that
it's been canceled.
Eshleman (report by jkit):
Current State: Same as last week---stuck because the key to the
locks cannot be found. jkit will cut the locks very soon and
replace it with the red-color-coded locks in the server room
that we do have the keys for.
Additional notes: In case the reason Dell computers aren't booting
is due to power supply problem, jkit asks, "How long until we
can get the power supply?" brando answers, "Two to three days."
Also, yury asks, "Is there any chance of getting permanent
internet connection" as opposed to Airbears? jkit answers,
"No".
This concludes team reports
Discussion Items:
(I might not have gotten down everything important that was said. Please
feel free to email outrageous emendations^W^Wcorrections to BoD.)
Printer:
elliot: The printer looks good, other than not having tabloid size
printing, and W&MF uses it, some other people from staff,
though elliot won't speak for them, have looked at it and found
nothing wrong. He likes it.
brando: What's the dimension of the printer?
frank: About the same as our current one, but not as tall.
elliot: The cost of the printer comes out around $2200.
frank: It might be higher than $2200, after we get the other
"optional" items, such as RAM, etc.
brando,yury: Why do we need RAM? --jkit mentions something about
larger print jobs being possible.
elliot: We already passed the alloted time to discuss this so we
should move on.
But the discussion continues a while...
yury: One problem is that it doesn't hold as much paper, without
the extension tray.
frank: But it has higher multivolume
it's better.
jkit, and others: Is it possible to use the current Tray 4?
In conclusion, as to how much it would cost (as jkit and others
asked), frank answers: $3646 (sorry, I missed the details of what
went in but there was RAM upgrade, extra trays, and no hard drives
as well as no HP care packs).
Seeing the cost, it was decided to table this issue until we have
quorum as the BoD was under the impression that the quorum was not
met.
novakyu makes a side comment about the printer not breaking down
as much lately (i.e. no fuser error), but dima is skeptical.
Quota: in summary, elliot sent out email to admin@ocf, and there was
support for more conservative quota than starting value of 500MB
(labeled Plan A), at a starting value of 400MB (labeled Plan B).
Plan C was also proposed as compromise at 450MB. elliot briefly
mentioned the mail quota, but it was agreed that it was a separate
issue and that we should focus on disk array for home and
services. Some parts of discussion follows:
jkit: He says to go with more conservative option, Plan B.
dima: Why?
brando: We are screwed if people start using their quota more.
dima: They are not going to use quota.
novakyu said something that I forgot.
novakyu moves to eliminate Plan C as a wimpy compromise.
dima: 500MB is helping users, we should help our users.
jkit, novakyu: People don't need more disk space as it is, and
those who do already have more disk space. Besides, higher disk
quota will only encourage people not to conserve space and keep
more of their useless old files around. And if we run out of
space because we increased the quota too much, it's not helping
users.
Some mentions were made as to OCF's ability to even support 1GB
quota for 5 years, and novakyu raises objection by repeating
jjlin's argument against tdhock's analysis from memory: i) the
analysis is valid only if we assume that 1000 new users we get
this year will use only about 40MB of their quota, and assuming
that existing users do not use any more space---clearly some
factor was neglected in the analysis.
yury: Let's move the Windows profiles to old disk array, and
higher quota will put OCF in better light in comparison to
other services.
jkit and novakyu speaks against having found a marvelous reason
which the scantiness of BoD members' inbox quota cannot contain.
Informal poll is taken by elliot with the result, yury, sle, and
dima for Plan A, jkit and novakyu for Plan B, no one for Plan C
and the rest abstain.
In conclusion: elliot will decide one way or the other some time
soon by the power vested in him as the SM.
Sun Party:
No news on the Sun Party, and no definite dates set. Mentions
were made that it would be difficult near the finals.
Other Food/Party:
Should we go out (to restaurants) or stay in (potluck, party at
lab, etc.)? jkit mentions that someone should set us up a calendar
and find out when everyone (or as many as possible) can make it.
Winter Break: Project Madness
Some of the stuffs we can/should do over the winter break, as
proposed by elliot:
1) automate account approval/creation
2) automate answering of stock questions
3) automate... stuffs ('sorry, I missed other details. :( )
at this point, geo, who is here with us in spirit, asserts on #ocf,
19:57 <+geo> erm
19:57 <+geo> there's never anything good in the minutes
19:57 <+geo> unless you promise to transcribe EVERYTHING said
19:57 <+geo> including all the stuff that doesn't go in the minutes =]
Logging yury off:
yury goes to log himself off OCF on elliot's laptop so that he
cannot access yury's secret stash of pr0n.
Pizza:
Yes, we will have pizza next BoD, and no, novakyu, we are not
having pizza this BoD. :(
Elect new BoD:
We thought that we didn't have quorum so we skipped it, but in any
case everyone was on BoD (and if anyone wasn't, well, we didn't have
quorum, then. =] ).
Meeting closes at 8:15 p.m., as judged by the time frank logged off #ocf
when he hibernated his laptop without quitting his IRC client.
End of the Official BoD meeting on 11/17/2005 which was formerly thought
unofficial.