Ocf minutes 2007 10 11

gcwong cardi sle geo abhi mkendall akit sluo dmchan jchu kevintra

akit: call to order 7:14 PM

akit: I didn't have time to check actual budget but it's lower now. I got po order for toner and cleaning supplies for maintenance day

akit hasn't bought Microsoft licenses yet, BOD hasn't passed the motion yet We can only make one Microsoft purchase a year. What does the OCF want?

Do we want to buy the license or windows servers?

sluo: We don't have decision yet sle agrees

akit wants to wait on decision

akit: Thanks for coming to maintenance day. Those of you that didn't come...

cardi: I thought you guys said meet at angel island akit: I said meet at ocf

yury walks in 7:16 PM

akit: I think you were asleep cardi cardi: yea I didn't wake up until 5 PM

akit: I'm going to watch Transformers on Friday, you can join me if you want.

mkendall: I'm going to LA to watch the Noodles

akit: Am I going to do elections? sluo: Yea elections go first. yury: We failed general meeting again since elections are supposed to be first. Rread the constitutionality of the section

mkendall: We should stop following the rules. akit: No we should not. We should have a sm election.

yury: kevintra staffer?

kevintra: yes

akit: Does everyone know what sm is?

sle apparently doesn't

akit: sle you know what sm is

jchu nominates yury yury declines

jchu nominates sle sle declines

yury nominates jchu sle seconds jchu accepts

yury nominates cardi cardi: fuck no

yury nominates jameson jameson isn't present

yury nominates dmchan dmchan declines

yury nominates abhi abhi declines

sluo nominates gcwong yury motions so that she can't decline motion doesn't pass gcwong declines

thanos walks in 7:19 PM

yury nominates thanos thanos accepts

cardi nominates steveklaw akit: He can't decline yury: So he accepts by default i.e. sluo yury seconds

akit: omg sluo: I think we nominated everyone in the room already.

yury nominates the room

akit does anyone want to do this

thanos what about willis

cardi agrees

thanos willis wants to do it but doesnt know enough

jchu me too

yury i stand by my jchu quote

akit to cardi: Did you take wln phone to call me last night? akit: He called me and I called him back and asked "wln did you call me?"

He replied, "No but I think I know who did..."

akit calls wln to joke that he is new sm

sluo calls steveklaw, he declines

yury: We still need to vote for jchu, if he doesn't have simple majority then we don't have sm

sluo: We continue until we get simple majority so if jchu doesn't then we repeated or cancel election

jchu wants to talk

jchu: I don't think I have the technical skills for the job nor the time

yury wants to make jchu's speech on his behalf

yury: It is well known that sms fail in general and it's jchu

sluo to jchu: Why did you accept nomination?

jchu: because...

sluo to calvin: We need to make you sm sometime...

akit: So vote. You don't have to vote if you don't want to. You can abstain

abhi: Vote for someone random

sluo: No one else ran

cardi: Let's nominate Hans Reiser

yury: I have a midterm tomorrow too... I'm submitting a quantum vote.

jchu: How does that work?

akit: Have you voted dmchan.

dmchan:I'll vote for jchu but I don't want to write it down

yury: You have to write it down

dmchan: Who wants to format the minutes?

jchu: Submit it to thomson

mkendall: Is anyone good at solitaire?

jchu: How can you be bad at solitaire?

sluo attempts to flip coins to decide winner sluo fails at flipping coin

akit: What's the verdict?

sluo: "I vote for that guy, you know that guy" Does everyone agree I should count that as vote for jchu?

everyone agrees

Results: jchu/milki: 4 abstain: 6 "cardi": 1 "steve perry": 1

akit: Are we doing this again?

sluo: Looks like it... So no one is sm. We will have runoff with jchu and no one

akit: Anyone want to run against jchu? dmchan, you're only taking two classes that dont matter and you play scrabble online.

dmchan: ...

sluo: It is up to jchu. He can drop out.

akit: I resign

yury: Now we need gm election.

akit: I'm joking.

yury nominates gordeon for sm

sluo seconds

akit calls gordeon

"You've been nominated for sm"

akit: Anyone else?

cardi: When will we vote people into bod, we still need to vote thanos in

mkendall to akit: That's the point honey, that's the point

sluo to jchu: Do you want to force a runoff election?

akit: Soda doesnt have reception does it?

cardi: Not really

yury calls gordeon "Call either akit or me back, you've been nominated for sm"

akit: Is gordeon online, hes not on irc or aim

yury: We are going to do this by drawing lots. Shortest one becomes sm

sluo: I want to call elliot to see if he will reconsider.

yury: So someone needs to be sm. It's not that bad.

sluo: No it's really not that bad.

yury: You have to deal with dwc...

yury points to his treo talking to mkendall This is pda... your DS is a piece of shit. How fast is your processors?

akit: ... omg you guys are such dorks.

yury: I have cellphone capabilities... I can go online mkendall: So can this... yury: Only wifi though

yury: jchu want to just try again (for sm)? How about we just have another run off election?

sluo: It's clear that no one wants the job.

akit: What is runoff?

sluo: We just ask people to vote again... Normally we eliminate the lowest candidate and vote again.

akit: Vote wisely if you want to go home today.

akit: geo did you not turn in your vote the last time?

mkendall: He's too busy playing zelda

kevintra to jchu: You never gave me a reason to vote for you

sle: He was pimp

jchu: i have no confidence

sluo: Get some confidence, you're not going to get anywhere without it.

sluo to jchu: I see a vote there

jchu: No... oh wait yea

sluo: Maybe I'll start counting while waiting for yury

mkendall: Who voted for wjm cause I know I did

sluo: Are you kidding cause I don't see any votes for wjm

yury: Hey it's gordeon

akit: Hi gordon jchu: Hi gordon yury: Everyone says hi

jchu to gordeon: You're sm

yury to gordeon: You're in lecture?

yury: Does jchu win?

sluo: Yes he does jchu it jumped up by 5

yury to gordeon: Sorry gordon

jchu/jchu 9 abstain 1 cardi 1 arnold schwareznger? 1

yury: You spelled it incorrectly I spelled it correctly for you!

sluo: There aren't two zs

yury: Google says there are

akit: jchu is the new sm... What is wrong with you guys?

yury: Motion to remove jchu as sm

sle: Everyone can join callug if you have more confidence!

yury: This is the thing that just lost the hdd and stole from ocf right?

yury: jchu can do sm agenda

jchu: I defer to sluo

sluo: sm agenda only thing to note is that we have issues. We have issues with firewalls on solaris box tentative update to ipfilters 20th

sle: Backup your data on friday

yury: Did we put up a notice?

sluo: Not yet since I decided an hour ago

yury to jchu: Put up a notice

jchu: ok

card: What happened?

sluo: We had multiple nfs meltdowns over the week

cardi: So we're fixing stuff?

yury: sle wants to put the gigabit 3550 built in firewall connect to asuc does firewall and security

sluo: That is not acceptable to campus security

yury: We also have NAT and that's not acceptable

sluo: There is nothing in campus policy agains a NAT

yury: We can run another rulesset bind it to another interface we will still have a firewall up just on different interface it would protect us from asuc at one point

sluo: jchu will think about it

jchu: okay..

sluo: Is that it. Anyone have any agenda items?

yury: Two items

sluo: oh.. account issues

yury: First one sounds reasonable... second one no

sluo: Before we close we need to do bod election, someone remind us

yury: Okay

sluo: Damnit where is it?

yury motion to change jchu's shell to rsh

jchu: why

yury: Restricted shell just in case

jchu; I should probably change my password to something more secure

yury: I also need to get you pda so you don't forget your password

sle: I memorized them

yury: I can't memorize tier 2

sluo: So from Daniel Armor(???)... 4th year undergraduate (Greek thing)

yury: sluo either you or I will make executive summary In general all frats have requirement to educate self on alcohol and sexual violence. They want a general website on ocf ocf doesn't give accounts to nonofficial student groups

sluo: Question and answers? Debate?

jchu: Are they organized?

yury: Seems like loosely grouped (i.e. refugees) seems beneficial to campus

mkendall motions to give them account yury seconds

sluo: Anyone have anything else to say?

sluo: Those in favor of granting account 6 in favor 1 against (jchu)

13 present

motion fails

sluo: More abstentions than yes votes...

yury motions again mkendall seconds

yury: If you have something to say against it say it..

jchu: I want them to be more organized

yury: We can demand they have a responsible party. That's ocf policy. If that person doesn't check their email within 48 hours...

sluo: All in favor 8 in favor 0 against

motion passes

yury: akit isn't here but we still meet the minimum.

sluo: Barely...

sluo: It would be unwise to anger asuc

yury: The question then becomes... What if there is a bogus committee on asuc with 1 person?

"oh... i want a group account and virtual host name@berkeley"

sluo: We have power to refuse the account

yury: Yesk, but refusing the account after creation causes problems as with jsrc(???)

It leads to a lot of teeth grinding

yury: We should do this before the fact

sluo agrees We should figure out exactly how asuc is structured

yury: Until then we should allow any accounts with office of president

sluo: anyhow... that can be dealt with later

sluo: anna fuller wants ocf account for coop coops are not osl or reshall

mkendall: What does she want it for?

sluo: I know there are some coop ethernet managers

yury: Maybe she wants a shell account...

sluo: She wants webspace that she doesn't have to administer

mkendall: To pass it on

sluo: Are we approving it?

yury: It serves a small portion of the Berkeley community... kind of shady

sluo: I think it's funny all frats are OSL sponsored

mkendall: Frats are also for profit and coops aren't

yury: Wait osl can be for profit?

sluo: Frats are special...

yury: You need a faculty sponsor

sluo: Uou don't need a faculty sponsor for student groups... you just need 4 students

akit walks in with pizza

cardi walks toward it

akit tells him to back away

yury reads the agenda

sluo: Anything else to bring up? that's it then

akit: Wait bod..

sluo: Who here isn't on bod thanos, kevintra

thanos: What is bod?

akit to thanos: He wants your bod...

mkendall: I want your bod all over my bod...

sluo explains bod sluo: Would you accept nomination for bod?

thanos: yes

sluo: kevintra?

yury: Keep in mind if you don't plan on coming don't join bod

yury motion to remove jchu from bod...

yury: Oh wait we can't

kevintra in response to sluo: absolutely

sluo motion to add kevintra and thanos to bod

7 in favor mkendall against rest abstain

yury motion to adjourn jchu second adjourned at 8:02 PM

people get food...